UPDATE (on 10 Nov): After my text message at around midnight, which I repeat, “Searched the internet which pointd out to a NuSkin enterprise a part of Pharmanex. Oh yes i hv read about NuSkin which are great products but i am not cut our for sales. Can you pls tell me the name of yr company?”, I got a text response at 3 am:
“It’s not all about sales, lets just meet so u cud finally understand the whole information. U can’t make a dcision out of bits and pcs of information. Check out the possibility for yrself n find out how u can be of help and significance to others thru ths opportunity, I promise u I will answer all yr concerns.”
To which I sent another text message, “So what’s the name of your company? This is getting to be suspicious. I do not go to meetings without knowing who I am meeting wit. I’m just asking for one vital information–the name of your company. It’s so basic and professional.”
NO RESPONSE AFTER THAT. By the way, the telephone number is: 09178411869, I repeat 09178411869.
(Original Entry) On 9 November:
While I was on my way home a while ago from the supermarket, I got this kinda interesting phone call from a certain BS who spoke well, and in business-like fashion. I asked him to call me back in 5 minutes, as I would be home by then. He called up an hour later to explain that he was
from a certain company based in the US, and that his company was looking for some key people that its company would employ for their import/export business.
He asked if I was employed at the moment, I told him, yes, I had a number of activities, like running a virtual office and doing freelance research and writing. He said he was impressed, and even found me to be a dynamic person–the right qualifications that they wanted, including the fact that I loved interacting with other people and helping them.
No matter how I asked to find our about his company, he tried to evade giving me a direct answer. Finally, I asked if in this venture I was expected to shell out some money. No, he laughed out, he was offering a job that would be financially rewarding, not one in which I have to invest money. And by the way, he said I was in their shortlist, and said something about prequalification. I asked him to email me, but he said his company was not the type that conducted its major activities online.
I asked who referred me to him, he said something like some sort of headhunters, but he was not sure anymore which of the headhunters they employed. Since he would like to know more about me, he gave me the option to meet him in their office, either in Ortigas or Makati, and yes, in smart casual attire. I agreed to meet him in his office, after office hours he suggested so as not to interfere with my current work. He said that as we are all professionals and that our time was precious, he would assume that I would not be backing out of the appointment. He said to wait for his text message for details of the appointment.
The text message goes this way, “Hi (my full name)! It’s Basil Semilla. I’ll meet u on the soft launching of our 2nd div. on thu 11/15, 630 pm sharp in our corporate ofc at 15th flr, Octagon ctr. in miguel ave. Ortigas, pasig. It’s just bside Linden Suites. (My full name), ths is purely invitational n its not open to everybody. I’ve reserved one slot for u. Kindly rely if u receive this msg. See u n God bless.”
Immediately, there were doubts that came to mind–questions that could detect misrepresentation: (a) he would not give the name of his company, (b) he didn’t ask me to bring my resume, (c) he didn’t know that I was retired, (d) the meeting was supposed to be an interview, not for a soft launch, (e) the interview was supposed to be telling them about myself, not listening about them, (f) meeting was after office hours, (g) his company would not communicate by email, and many more.
Fishy? Think smart. Google search.
I sent him a text message: “Hi, Basil. This acknowledges rcpt of your txt msg. Is your office by the way associated with Pharmanex? If it is please count me out.”
He responded by another text message after half an hour: “Just read yr msg What is pharmanex?”
To which I replied, “Searched the internet which pointd out to a NuSkin enterprise a part of Pharmanex. Oh yes i hv read about NuSkin which are great products but i am not cut our for sales. Can you pls tell me the name of yr company?”
I did not get a response after that.
Dear Readers, you might be interested to read about similar experiences with a company in the 15th Floor, Octagon Center, which has apparently victimized, some say “scammed” a lot of people with their misrepresentations–just to get people come to their office to listen to their sales talk.
Can they not just directly tell the people, “Hi, we sell —-, and you might be interested. May we invite you to our office at 15th Floor, Octagon Center…”.
It’s such a waste of time, precious time, to come to a sales presentation, which from the start was in the guise of a job offer. More so, I felt betrayed, almost duped. Imagine, almost grinning from ear to ear, to believe for a while that I got what seemed to be a good job offer, even if I knew in my heart that I loved doing what I am currently involved with.
If the products are legitimate, why entice people through misrepresentation instead of through mention of the merits of the products.
I write about this to say, enough is enough, and people, BEWARE. It’s high time maybe for the company to reassess their strategy, not to victimize/scam people through misrepresentation, or what they might call their innovative marketing strategy. I have even heard of cases when they bad mouthed some bloggers who unravelled their uncanny tactics.
By the way, read BA’s interesting piece, What are they up to?
BA has written the bits and pieces that I missed in this post.
Read some of the bloggers’ experiences, and judge for yourself. Could you be the next?
Maki Edwardo’s The Sunday Phone Call
BA’s Scam? and Questionable Methods
Celeni’s 15F Octagon Building
Tristan Cafe’s Forum
Ana’s The Networking Rant
Quoting Prudence and Madness let me invite “those who also have posts about this issue, just leave a comment and I’ll link you up. It’s good to compile a list of posts related to the topic so that blog readers will be able to have ample source of information aside from the information provided by the companies themselves or by their employees.
(Well, okay, if you’re working for those companies that use these recruitment strategies, you’re also welcome to leave comments and links. )”
Latest Links: Prudence and Madness’ New Recruitment Strategies by Companies.
Ris’ i almost fell for that one: NUskin
Maki Eduardo’s noneed4ink.com/?p=322
Shari’s Recruitment Strategy? Beware and Be Aware
NEW UPDATE IS HERE
DISCLAIMER: Author has noticed the posting of this article in full in a Beware of NuSkin Campaign, without Author’s permission. Please note that this act itself is an act of MISREPRESENTATION and a breach of Intellectual Property Rights. This article has been written as a general article to inform and not to be a vehicle of a hate campaign against any individual, entity or organization.
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106 responses so far ↓
Micamyx // Nov 10, 2007 at 12:16 am
I am actually a part of Pharmanex/Nuskin.. Bili kayo sa akig online store hehe http://pharmaphil.multiply.com
ba // Nov 10, 2007 at 12:37 am
Magkunwari na lang muna tayo na never nila ako tinawagan at di nila nadale si Dad.
If they really were seeking you out, they should’ve done a background check on you first. They could’ve found out that your son was once called late in the night regarding a youth entrepreneurship program at the SAME VENUE.
So that’s just the fishiest thing, ever. Ano ba talaga ino-offer nila? Ang bomalabs forever ng mga tawag eh.
And after me writing about the calls, they gather the guts to call my own Mom. Great.
Bababa ba? » Blog Archive » What’re they up to? // Nov 10, 2007 at 2:02 am
[...] They effin’ called my Mom! [...]
noemi // Nov 10, 2007 at 2:12 am
i have a feeling someone we know is giving away our cellphone numbers. Just the other day while driving, I received the same call, A second later, lauren who was beside me received a similar call. grabe.
Meeya // Nov 10, 2007 at 8:02 am
by resorting to this method of “recruiting”, they’ve accomplished nothing but to cast doubt upon their otherwise legitimate product.
i hope this MO story reaches a lot of people. with all the scams going on right now, we need all the smarts we can get. thanks for sharing, sexymom!
Aileen Apolo // Nov 10, 2007 at 12:20 pm
Grabe rumaket mga yan. Sweetie asked me to accompany him to a few months ago to something similar. We pretended to be bums just working at home and they immediately lost interest in us. You can actually report them to DTI =)
@noemi – I agree, I think someone’s been giving away our numbers, I’ve been getting weird messages all week and it’s sooo annoying!
Lazarus // Nov 10, 2007 at 2:25 pm
if they want to sell, why can’t they do it direct to the point.
i really had a hard time avoiding an ex-colleague when she invited me to join NuSkin years ago. No, not really avoiding her as a person. just avoiding the topic of MLM.
KK aka Tina // Nov 10, 2007 at 2:31 pm
It’s really so funny that he would actually try his trick on a well known blogger. Or is he even aware of you being a blogger? Ano yun? Spam in person?
Alot of people I know have been scammed. It’s awful that some people can actually stomach to feed their children with money they stole from their victims.
BTW, I submitted my first ‘installment’ for FilipinaImages.com
Prudence // Nov 10, 2007 at 4:41 pm
You know what? This also happened to me YESTERDAY. I was at the clinic with a patient when I received that call in my cellphone. I actually can’t understand much of what he’s saying because he seem to talk quick over the “details” and then just slow down when he’s saying buzz words like “job offer”, “expansion”, and “Stanford University”. He mentioned Stanford Univ because I kept asking him what company he’s working for and he answered something gibberish but what I could derive from it is that the company is “affiliated” with Stanford University. Really now? He couldn’t even tell me his name. When I asked him who he was? He muttered something which I couldn’t really understand. Also, I asked where he was able to get my cellphone number and, yes, he also mentioned some headhunter which he also couldn’t recall (sounds eerily familiar). I wasn’t able to talk much because I was with a patient at that time so I just told him if he wanted, he can call me after 15 minutes. He didn’t call back, thank goodness. I already have a suspicion about that call because of what I’ve read in some of the blogs, including Maki’s. Yup, I think we do need to raise an awareness about this kind of recruitment that this company is doing (though I’m not sure if it’s also from the same company as that who called you). I’m thinking of blogging about this already and I’m just looking for the time to do it.
Any other bloggers out there who had similar experiences?
Prudence // Nov 10, 2007 at 5:27 pm
It seems that somebody (a blogger?) is giving away cellphone numbers of bloggers. Hmmm…it’s just that it’s hard to ignore that in the recent days, many bloggers have received similar calls. Something to think about.
ris // Nov 10, 2007 at 6:18 pm
oh, can i just add my entry to your growing list of complainants? i haven’t published it yet, but there seems to be a lot of people who are making a living out of annoying people.
buti nalang i did google for the building address before i went to the meeting. i stumbled on BA’s entry. thank goodness for that!
New Recruitment Strategies? | Prudence and Madness // Nov 10, 2007 at 7:18 pm
[...] recently, have been having similar experience like the phone call I got yesterday, specifically Ms. Dine’s blog post about how someone from a company whose office is located in the 15th floo…. Some also got to the point that they attended the “interview” like I [...]
Prudence // Nov 10, 2007 at 7:44 pm
Thanks for linking up my post!
Just like in a blog I’ve read, if they’re doing network marketing, we’re doing information networking.
noemi // Nov 10, 2007 at 8:42 pm
@prudence- I don’t want to be suspicious but I think I might know the source. I don’t have evidence pa unless other bloggers speak out.
Mike Abundo // Nov 10, 2007 at 9:05 pm
Google is a scammer’s worst enemy.
Maki Eduardo // Nov 10, 2007 at 10:50 pm
I get around 10 hits about that Sunday Phonecall regularly but recently there’s been an increasing trend in traffic.
I actually had a flamewar with a recruiter from Nuskin who turned out to be a batchmate of mine in Ateneo. He was even threatening me of libel but he just doesn’t make sense because I got most of the post from Ana (The networking rant). Maybe he’s been reading my blog because I posted something about reporting to the Dean and the head of our course about this recruitment style luring students like me during that time that the job is an OJT but it turns not to be like that. That batchmate of mine made truce with me (saying that my post has affected their recruitment) but I haven’t seen him yet. If he continued to spam my blog during that time, I would’ve ordered my brother and my cousins who have connections to beat him up..haha, just wishful thinking :p
Anyways, I hate scams and spammers…and networking will not just work for me.
Many people thanked me about posting about it but I think that company hates me like hell..haha
Digital Slices from My Life » When you're trolled // Nov 10, 2007 at 11:16 pm
[...] familiar posts about the issue including mine which Sexymom Dine Racoma posted in her latest post How to Detect Misrepresentation in JOBS (UPDATES) Prudence and Madness’ New Recruitment Strategies by Companies. Maki Eduardo’s The Sunday Phone [...]
ris // Nov 10, 2007 at 11:51 pm
finally i finished mine and im all for that ‘information networking’
julie // Nov 11, 2007 at 10:23 pm
Who would do that, give away phone numbers? For what? A commission? Can this be reported to DTI or SEC maybe? And text messages at 3am? Wow, that’s harassment.
raqgold // Nov 12, 2007 at 7:24 pm
grabe, it would even turn off people who are seriously looking for work if the companies are not so trustworthy anymore..
mr nice ash // Nov 13, 2007 at 10:50 pm
My wife received a call from that exact number and exact Basil Semilla. He was actually looking for me. So my wife gave my number thinking that it’s not a scam. I’ve been waiting for his call since then.
Lace // Nov 18, 2007 at 12:08 pm
when i just graduated i too received a job offer from them and as i understood, it was an interview but it really was just a presentation and an offer if ever i would like to sell their products. This was somewhere in Makati. waste of time.
rochelle // Nov 23, 2007 at 9:58 pm
i blogged about my NU SKIN lolz — uhhhh, i mean experience, just fifteen minutes ago
hoping for a link-back; thanks!
http://magnetic-rose.livejournal.com/523801.html
Maki // Dec 5, 2007 at 10:15 am
About my batchmate harassing me, I finally filed a case against him in ADMU.I hope it turns out well. It was well-documented by my blogs and emails anyway.
He has been harassing me for almost a year already. What the heck are those companies doing to fellow Ateneans? Shame on them!
markpogi co // Dec 10, 2007 at 10:03 am
thank God to your blog, im almost victimized. im supposed to go to 15th fl, octagon later after work. until i got this suspicion and searched in the internet about their company, nu skin. the’re f. up, they messed the wrong person. ill cancelling the meeting right now.
tina // Dec 18, 2007 at 10:11 pm
Hi Tita. I’m also in Network Marketing and I believe those kind of “strategies” don’t work and besides I don’t like deceiving people to think they are getting a job offer. And it’s so sad that those kind of people give Network Marketing a bad light. T_T
They should not be pushing the business to others who are not interested and whom they “invited” under false pretense. Because it wouldn’t work out well anyway.
It’s not the business. *cause the business is good* It’s the strategy they use to invite people.
Do not listen to people who are out there to get you for “money”. And who are out there for commissions lang. Take Care.
Anon Ymos // Jan 3, 2008 at 10:11 am
a former classmate of mine also texted and called me about the same company at the 15th floor octagon building, san miguel avenue, ortigas. i thought at first that it was a good offer, because i know the person.
after our initial conversation, wherein he told me that he was an executive for his company, about their company’s planned expansion in India, and that they were looking for leaders to man their growing client markets. I texted him again, because i just realized i have’nt asked the company name – completely stupid on my part. maybe because i know that person. anyway, he texted me back that he can not reveal the company name as part of the company policy.
it’s a good thing that i had the insight to research about 15th floor octagon building… before going for my meeting with them at 6:30pm. they did not give me any facts to research, but they did give me the address. so i went with that.
it’s also unnerving to find out that it has already been going on for a long time.
but i already had some foresight about the possibility of the company being on networking and sales. that is the only reason i can think of, for them to be this secretive and leading their prospective targets. business-wise, it is shrewd in the positive way. on the other end, its misleading.
but to be honest, he did say that there were no obligations, or that i can say no after seeing what they were offering.
maybe their’s is a legitimate business (i hope so, i have a lot of respect for my former classmate) but the company policy of not revealing the company name and their recruitment process, may have to be revisited.
in the end, i just texted him and said i can not make it because i just realized that i have to focus on what i have right now and wished him well.
thank you // Jan 10, 2008 at 3:17 pm
wow..thanks so much!! im actually scheduled for an interview with them this weekend..and i got the exact script from them..hmm..i dcided to check them out too for the same reasons u had..good thing i stumbled upon your site..super thankful..God bless you, literally..
Chris // Jan 16, 2008 at 10:32 am
Last night, my wife got a similar call from Ji-an Ongpin (09177961157) offering the same part-time job in 15F Ortigas. At least ive read to all this blogs before she get to dress up this morning and warned her that this job is not for her since she is an Interior Design graduate and the job is not in the field of Interior design as I found out this morning from all the blogs and later through confimation from the caller on what company they belong (NSE PHILIPPINES) (the caller didnt give the specific details of the job and just said to come to 15F Octagon Tower). .
.. Reading to all those blogs, Ive noticed that the bloggers havent really investigated on HOW THE CALLERS GOT THE CELLPHONE NOS, NAME, AND SCHOOL graduated. be it high school, college or any school. Maybe the bloggers defending the company at the 15F Octagon tower may shed some light on this – -Im not condemning anyone or any company – just want to know how they get it..
Possible Sources of Information
A. Yearbook Publishers – This is my primary suspect since Ive read on most blogs that they got the details from the school they graduated. And they knew that the one they are calling are fresh graduates… (Verified with the school that my wife has graduated that the school always asks first of company details before giving out graduated students records and details.
B. Yearbook itself ?? -
C. Other Means
I again solicit information to shed light on how those callers/recruiters got the contact name,school and current details. This maybe a case of leaking privacy information to companies of yearbook publishers IF THIS IS ONE OF THE CULPRITS
jessie hernandez // Jan 18, 2008 at 5:01 pm
i am an ECE student in PUP and i want to share to you my experience about “part-time job” scam of some company.
last night (january 17, 2007) a man named kent abarico (mobile # 09063104440) called me and told me that he was a representative of a “multinational company” (what a BIG WORD—MULTINATIONAL). he told me that they are hiring part time students to join their company NSE INTERNATIONAL which is said to be at the 15th floor of octagon building in pasig city (he told me that it’s just near mega mall). he also told me flattering words “ms.blablabla referred you to me and said that you are intelligent, competitive and hard working” and so our company is interested blablabla. the work description was human resource development consultancy. (i don’t even know what type of job it is) since i was curious about that fishy thing, i surf the net about nse international and i found several blogs that cleared my mind on how this scam goes. it was more like convincing me to go there and get involved in some st*p*d activity which their company is trying to put in. you’ll go there, then they will ask you to give at least 300 contacts (additional persons to be scammed) and you’ll do the same thing that they do SCAM PEOPLE. thankfully, i have read blogs in the net about the same thing so i decided not to go there and not to entertain calls or text from kent abarico (mobile # 09063104440). learn from the experience of others so that like me, you won’t be into same kind of scam stuffs.
dyan // Jan 30, 2008 at 9:18 pm
dis very day…jan.30, 2008…sumbody also called me…he was using dis number 09202431729 ( nagpakilala bilang Joel Valesteros- not sure if it was really his name of course)…he kept on telling me about a part tym job in there company- “Pharmanex”..i thought it was sumwat pharmacy or wat…dey offer big salray per week, 6-8 hours lng…sbi nila, he got my number from a list of students from different university n binigay ng head nya pra konatakin daw nya…it was 9pm, obviously not an office hour, tpos ngatatawag xa pra my mrecruit…
well, napapaisip nrin ako kc 1. ndi msbi un definite name ng company, 2. i asked der office address, he said in Ortigas..un lng…3.i asked the contact number or even email address of der company, sbi s number nlng nya kontakin…anu ba un db? wat kind of BIG FAMOUS company is dat..based p daw s U.S. tpos alng email add??? 4. he dont asked my course or wat,panu malalaman kung applicable b un ggwin ko dun or ndi.. 5. cnbi nya n executive blah blah un position.wat dah, anu ggwin ng isang estudyante s gnun position…
just beware nlng..kz he knew my whole name and school…woi…and he asked me to gave number of my friends n pwede irecommend s knya…wel, ndi ako ngsabi ng any confirmation, diretso ako dito s computer pra isearch about wat is his company..to my surprise, i read about dis..wel, dmi n pla nila naloloko…and bka nababasa nrin nila ang mga ito…ingat ingat lng tau lahat..mga modus operandi nila.. ang daming taong gustong manloko for der personal reasons..and kung cnu man din un ngbibigay o kung san man nila nlalaman un number nmin, wag kau mandamay…dmi ngpapakahirap mgsumikap pra mrating ang mga panagrap nila in good ways…
lets pray always for everything..
Researcher // Feb 2, 2008 at 3:22 am
Watch out for their other office in Makati, 26th floor Trafalgar Plaza.
bluediamond // Feb 6, 2008 at 2:25 pm
im proud to be part of that company because at a very young age, iv helped several youngsters and iv been to different countries like singapore, malaysia, las vegas (for free) because of the trainings that were conducted there.. prior to accepting the opportunity, iv already expcted that its not for everyone.. but then i believe that only those who risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go..
Leo // Feb 10, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Thank you so much!! Muntik na ako dun.. lol.. I suppose to go to that meeting tomorrow but after I read your articles because I am looking “kung san ba ang trafalgar square sa Makati” and I found your article which is so similar on what I have experienced yesterday. And “buti nalang” I have read this articles kung hindi, baka nabiktima din ako.. Hehe.. So for the people who created this articles, thank you and you saved me. Again, thank you and more power! Ang galing!
robert tracy // Feb 12, 2008 at 10:18 am
I perfectly understand from where all of you guys are coming from. Let me just clarify, it is not company policy that our members won’t mention a company name, we do mention our name…which is NSE Philippines and we do have divisions within the company, and we have an option to mention that instead. Yes, it is a marketing strategy much like what traditional businesses do when they think it’s more appropriate. It isn’t misrepresentation, it is just allowing people to have a chance to look at the whole business opportunity package, free from UNFOUNDED/MISGUIDED/INCOMPLETE pre-conceptions about the company from a minority. We always reiterate that the opportunity IS NOT FOR EVERYONE. I myself was very negative about network marketing before I joined, but thanks to their strategy, I was given a chance to SEE THE WHOLE PICTURE. Only people who are unsure of themselves would avoid looking at all facets before making conclusions. The OJT thing or job offer script is NOT a company policy, what we offer is mainly a Business Opportunity that’s why we stress and ask, in the first place, if one is OPEN to EXPLORE OTHER POSIBILITIES. Because, if the answer the answer is NO, an appointment would NOT be insisted. But most Filipinos kasi say YES when actually they mean NO or NOT SURE. Nevertheless, granted that you gave into the appointment. Definitely, the presentation IS NOT entirely a waste of time. All data are backed up by credible research institutions which, of course, I can’t mention here. Moreso, at the end of it, NO ONE is COERCED to do something HE DOES NOT WANT TO DO. It is entirely UP TO YOU. Parang pag nag-aapply ka rin ng job. Pag punta mo ba ng company, sure ka ba na you really want to join it before going there? Di ba most often than not, you’ll know more about the company when you’re already there and then, you will be in a BETTER POSITION of deciding wether you’ll join the company or not. Ganun rin sa min, we want to give people a chance to hear our side first before they decide. For those of you who opted not to look at it. I dare you to take a chance, look at the opportunity and aftewards, tell me if you already knew beforehand most of what you’ll hear/see. Most likely, at least 80% of the info. you’ll get would be new to you. I guess you can trust yourself to make intelligent decisions afterwards…or can’t you?
Prudence // Feb 12, 2008 at 8:03 pm
to robert tracy:
You left the same comment in my blog post. And it seems that you’ve particularly worded the comment to be copy-pasted in every blog you find that speak about this questionable recruitment strategy that some MLM companies have been employing. I suggest that next time, write more appropriate comments by reading the post first before submitting your comment. And go get your own blog.
robert tracy // Feb 13, 2008 at 8:58 am
Well, prudence, thanks for the advice. You may deduce that I’m doing some DAMAGE CONTROL because your blog and a host of others are quite affecting our business. And it is unfair that you say you’re doing information networking AGAINST (?) a very LEGITIMATE business such as network marketing. (Note that our company is very different from the pyramid scams that have ceased to exist after a couple of years in operation.) If you’re not interested in it, we respect that. Again, the business is not for everyone. But please, keep it to yourselves so that others who are more open-minded would be given a chance to decide for themselves and not with your BIASES. The bottomline is business ethics. We are NOT doing anything ILLEGAL. Be prudent.
Prudence // Feb 13, 2008 at 10:08 pm
to robert tracy:
Your choice of words is particularly interesting…damage control.
You do not tell bloggers who have had experience with some MLM companies trying to recruit them to shut up. You face the issues being raised. Having received a lot of comments from those who’re from MLM companies, I’m yet to encounter a comment which confronted the issue head on. Most had resorted to focusing on the anti-MLM sentiments and not on the anti-questionable recruitment strategy being employed by SOME MLM companies. If you’ve been reading carefully (and this has been repeated by several bloggers who have already posted about this), nobody’s questioning the legitimacy of your businesses. We are questioning the METHOD by which you RECRUIT potential members.
Damages should not be controlled, rather the mistakes should be corrected. Make sure first that your employees do not employ questionable recruitment practices instead of advising bloggers to shut up about their experiences.
Prudence // Feb 13, 2008 at 10:11 pm
to Ms. Dine:
Thanks Ms. Dine for notifying me. I’ve already posted a reply, which is rather repetitive since he also posts the SAME comment in my blog (and probably in other blogs too). Hehehe.
SexyMom: in BA’s blog, too but BA refuses to reopen it and post comments. You know how he has been attacked.
To Shut Up or Not To Shut Up | Prudence and Madness // Feb 13, 2008 at 11:44 pm
[...] It looked like that the compilation of experiences by bloggers is getting the attention of the MLM companies. And employees have started to do the rounds of blogs who’re speaking negatively about their companies and leaving comments in defense of their companies. Actually, one left the same comment in two different blogs (see this one and this one). [...]
ME // Mar 10, 2008 at 5:18 pm
a while ago a lady named Jenette Savanilla called me and told me about that recruitment thingy, i doubt it but i tried to listen to her… i just pretend that i’m really interested…then after that i searched for the address in the internet and there, i saw some of your reactions and comments from different blogs… she gave me the same address and asked me to wear a smart casual attire. She even know my secondary highschool. She said I was recommended by my former school… thank God i searched the net or else i’ll be the next victim of that company…
derek // Mar 11, 2008 at 11:46 am
thank you for this post, and google!
saved me a lot of time haha
janine Icawat // Mar 18, 2008 at 8:57 am
Ey I also got the same call from this Cryvina Alvarez, who said the same exact thing…Stupid of me to believe her… Masama lang sa loob kc we have the same religion and i wasnt expecting this that she would lie and trick other people into goin .
janine Icawat // Mar 18, 2008 at 9:05 am
her number is 09166550245, Good people dont deserve to be scammed..
dAiSy lOpEz // Apr 8, 2008 at 10:11 am
OMG!!! thanks to the new technology that i was able to googled this NSE Multinational. I was saved by the SCAM!!! we experienced the same “strategy” they used to persuade us just to join in their networking… SHAME on you!!!
A gay/guy named Harold Laxinto called me and said this line (i can clearly remember his line)”I got your number through our database from your” (my former school)at first he insisted that it was a part time job & asked me “what year are you now?” “i answered him i just graduated from college”… with his following words of “oh! that’s good,that’s good, what course?” he asked, so i answered him “management with entrepreneurial focus”, “you are the one we are looking and this company really fits your course”, he added, this multinational company is an American based company and is now hiring applicants, i asked him “what position?” he answered, “for now i cannot give you an exact position because it is a big company is really in need of hiring a lot of employees.” he also told me of the salary ranging from Php 15,000-20,000. and asked me “are you interested with our company”? i answered “can i think about it first?” then followed with “ok! in case that you are interested with our company you can contact me at 0915-3671160 and i can meet you in Ortigas.
I WARNED YOU GUYS DON’T BE DECEIVE BY THEIR FLOWERY WORDS OF PROMISING YOU TO HAVE A SALARY OF THIS AMOUNT OR SOMETHING YOU CAN EARN AS MUSH AS THIS AMOUNT… THIS IS A NETWORKING!!!
for US who were fooled by this incidence,
“LESSONS LEARNED!!!” ☺☺☺
Jase // Apr 9, 2008 at 6:45 pm
I was invited 4 times already. I’ve read these blogs on the 3rd time, so I declined. But when I’ve got the 4th invitation, I was so curious. So I decided to take a look. Well the presentation is not bad, it is actually inspiring. It is something that we have to hear. But then I thought,will I waste my UP education for this? Well it is worth my time. I’ve nothing to lose. I tried it. And now.. Am I victimizing people? NO. Am I earning money from a scam? Absolutely NO. I’m a UP Law Student. I know what’s a scam or what’s not.
For those who are saying that this is a scam, join us, and do a thorough investigation,find evidences that will say that the company is a scam. Well that’s basically what I did – but it was a failure. So I’m challenging you… Find the TRUTH.
meg dela cruz // Apr 10, 2008 at 11:41 am
Thanks to google.A guy named dandee de guzman was the one who called me..(using sun cell number 09228541284(April 7).una p lng I smell something fishy na that’s why I searched here sa google and nbasa ko mga blogs..new office nila sa 26F trafalgar..d ako ngpnta kc kaduda duda ang business nila…buti n lng ngbbsa muna ako..
kawaii // Apr 11, 2008 at 6:03 pm
I, too, just recently had this experience and I agree with everybody who say that the methods employed by this company are dubious. True, they may be a legitimate company, but their recruitment methods are highly suspicious, most particularly, the manner in which they acquired our names and numbers. I personally feel that my privacy has been breached by members of this company who cannot even specify properly as to how they acquired information about us. To any members of these companies blatantly attacked by bloggers all around this information highway, you should be ashamed.
celyn // Apr 13, 2008 at 7:33 pm
well, i never really knew the company until someone called me on my phone just this day. Well, she was direct in telling me that I was referred by my college friend and the name of the company. I sensed something fishy because of being “secretive” so after the call ended, I googled the company’s name at once.
BTW, I’ve read in a forum that they use a “script” when calling to people. I guess that’s true because some things that you’ve written about your conversation were the same as mine.
And though I set an appointment with her (my friend would be with me), I made a decision not to join probably because I won’t be able to sell ecpensive products. I don’t know rich people who are willing to shell 600 or 800 pesos for a toothpaste.
Think of our economy.
celyn // Apr 13, 2008 at 7:38 pm
anyway, i don’t care if they say that I could earn large bucks. What’s more important is that I like my job. Besides, I wouldn’t waste my education (degree and school attended).
dbc // Apr 16, 2008 at 8:07 pm
hey, i’d just like to thank you for posting this.:) helped LOADS. i got the same call, from a different person though. and yes, i googled — i thought something was really fishy. now i know. thanks.
Ungaz // Apr 24, 2008 at 11:21 pm
I just receive the same call awhile ago.
The words are almost exactly as what the topmost part of this page says.
During the call I told him that I am coming because he said that I was referred by my batch mate from college.
I try to contact the person he used to confirm it, but I don’t know if he still uses the same phone number.
Good thing I try to search for the name of the one who call me. c”,)
Should I still text him that I am not going anymore?
Ungaz // Apr 26, 2008 at 8:36 am
I look for the contacts of my schoolmate back in college to know if he knows the guy.
I found out that he really know the guy and they really are going to meet. But I found out that the business is to sell their product. That’s why I just told them that I’m not interested.
I can’t even sell anything in my own business that is why I have people selling computers for me. c”,)
BTW, if you have computer needs, visit my shop at shoppesville greenhills.
scamwarner // Apr 27, 2008 at 11:52 am
Way back in college, I was invited by one of my schoolmates who happen to have been fooled (and hoping to fool me as well) to join into one of these “Business Opportunity” (as the victims love to call it). The venue was also somewhere in Ortigas. If my memory serves me right, they referred to the meeting as BOM, perhaps meaning Business Opportunity Meeting, I didn’t bother asking or they may have mentioned it while I wasn’t paying attention. Out of curiosity I agreed to attend the meeting, he pays for the transportation expenses after all. The speakers arrived in luxury vehicles, Mustang, Jaguar, expensively setup Ford Expedition, BMW, Mercedes… you name it and it is there. It looked to me like it is part of their strategy to have all the newcomers standing outside to witness the arrival of those expensive cars while all those people who have been fooled in the preceding meetings are already lined up at the cashier’s window inside the office. When we were asked to get inside and take a seat, the speakers took turn upstage telling everyone how expensive their cars are, most of them boring. I still remember that guy boasting that the hub caps of his Expedition is more expensive than the whole house of middle class family. The main speaker took the stage and began to crack jokes that got everyone laughing. The guy was so funny that he could have made a good job as a standup comedian in one of Allan K’s comedy bar. The meeting was fun but not fun enough to convince me to join. The subject of his speech was to earn an overwhelming income without selling anything. All that needs to be done is invest PHP1xxxx and convince two other people to do the same. Sounds easy, if everyone on Earth is a moron. The speaker said we could buy ourselves a European car in less than 4 months or much shorter if we just need a Japanese brand. When the meeting was over, the victims who had just given their money to cashier would approach the new attendees (fraction of which is a bunch of “would be victims”) and gave their best shot of deception. Finally, I left the building with my schoolmate (a.k.a. recruiter) as he would endlessly convince me to join. For many times I just said, “Let me think” when what I really wanted to say was “Go to India and learn how to hypnotize people”. He used to say, “I am going to buy a Honda in 2 months time and buy my dream Jaguar a few months later”. I was 3rd in college and when I graduated more than 2 years later, he was still riding the public transport.
Recently, I was called by this guy named dandee de guzman, same guy mentioned previously in this blog site. Looks hard to me this time because I heard that this guy, dandee, is going to make you sell some stuff. Whatever it is, I bet it is going to be an overpriced stuff, like that toothpaste for PHP800 mentioned by another blogger earlier. I know several people who have fallen victims to this scam. It is going to waste your money, time and at worst your life.
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mc // May 3, 2008 at 12:40 am
ung friend ko pinpunta di ako.. kxo dmi silng mali sa strategies weh.. tlgang legal ang company kxo di nila sinasabi kung ano ung cost ng high wage.. sabi sa mga nbbsa ko magbe2nta daw.. sa paanong way nmn un.. feeling ko 22ruan mambola.. tama ba? nyahahaha.. ano un sa mga calls magbe2nta prang call center o personal…
jj // May 6, 2008 at 8:55 pm
i just got the same call 2day and so did my friends they said that they were looking for 2-3 people because they are planning to expand. (how can you expand with 2-3 people?) haha! fresh grads beware they will use your course to gain your interest in our case as it students they claimed that they are an it company name NSE (just NSE) when i googled the address that the caller gave me i was surprised to have found this thread luckily i did! thank you so much to the author of this article!
godspeed!
Jonathan // Jun 9, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Will it hurt kung makipag meet kayo?
Para maintindihan nyo na isa itong business, hindi employment. Para malaman nyo narin kung ano yung mga sinasabi nyo.
Kung mag Google search kayo, always remember that
opinions are cheap, everybody has one. Look for facts.
shuila // Jun 10, 2008 at 10:30 pm
I HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCE
i ac2aly calld GLOBE TELECOM nd told dem my story hoping dey cud help me cure d confuxn (nd suspixn)by simply confirming d name of d subscriber of dis number: 0917 835 1547…
d caller’s/recruiter’s name is “Ramy” (or so she said)…
un42n8ly, dey (Globe) sed in4m8xns bwt deyr post-paid subscribers cannot b disclosd (even f i’m also a subscriber)…
i’m workin’ on a way to dscover d name f d subscriber…
i might ac2aly nid a warrant 4 dat bt i myt also be able to find sumthng on the net…
i’ll kip y’all posted.
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Research Man // Jun 29, 2008 at 3:23 am
I have few things to say:
to those affiliated with Nu Skin Enterprise, Philippines: you have a serious problem in your recruitment process or whatever you call such activities. it’s very unprofessional.
to those who are not affiliated with Nu Skin Enterprise, Philippines: their marine mud is great, you should try it. and i love their lufra, makes my skin feel so soft. anyway, do your research properly.
azure_me // Jun 30, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Misinformation may be harder to pull now in the information age, especially in the age of the blogs. Right former comrades?
Let the hunt begin!
Rolly // Jul 1, 2008 at 11:05 pm
As site you would all be interested in
http://bewareofnuskin.blogspot.com
Sexy Mom: Hello, Rolly
I have noted that you have posted my 2 articles in full without my
permission, and I would like to request you to please take everything
out of your blog, and limit it to only a link if you want to.
Please note that this act itself is an act of MISREPRESENTATION and a breach of Intellectual Property Rights. This article has been written as a general article to inform and not to be a vehicle of a hate campaign against any individual, entity or organization.
Thanks a lot, Rolly
ed // Jul 5, 2008 at 11:24 pm
i also received a call from this 15th floor octagon bldg scam.. i got a fone call late evening today (07/05/08) telling me that i was one of those persons who are qualified for the position of “something” in their company and that they want me to go to their address blah blah blah.. good thing i searched the internet and came across this post.. thank you for saving me..
Rolly // Jul 7, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Hi Dine,
Thank you for the heads-up. I already edited the blog and left a link instead. My apologies for that
Sexy Mom: Thanks a lot Rolly! Much appreciated.
law of attraction // Jul 9, 2008 at 9:01 pm
well before you judge if its a scam or not you should see it first.Or if your really sucessful maybe you dont look for other opportunities anyway its not for all.no one force you to come,being negatve is up to you and goodluck for attracting negative thoughts because your the one making your life dont blame anyone why your not succesful coz at the end of the day the result in your life is just what you attract on your thinking,feeling and your action..
gladys // Jul 15, 2008 at 6:39 pm
I just receive the same call awhile ago.
The words are almost exactly d same and the address is also d same.
a girl called me her neme is ella garcia.. and she told me that a person named “magtibay” (i cant remember her first name) reffered me to her company… but i dont know hu magtibay is…!! i told my self somethings wrong..
i have a review for my board exam 2morow coz im a fresh nursing graduate… dey told me i can go after office hour.. interview after office hour??? duh!!!!
and they didnt ask 4 my resume, for it is a job interview… i felt curius and think somethings fishy so i searched the net and find this site… i txt d girl hu called me and confronts her…
thnks it helped a lot…
btw… did u go 2 der building wen dey call u??
leiannlei // Aug 5, 2008 at 8:39 pm
OH MY GOSH. I received that kind of call just minutes ago. I became suspicious then, for who would call at 8:30PM? Gosh, thanks for this blog.
ish // Aug 22, 2008 at 10:55 am
wow. hi sexy mom! was it just a co-incidence that your surname is my middle name? hmm.. anyway.. good thing i’ve read your post.. thanks. i got the same phone call. a caller named “ANA VICTORIA” called me last wed. (8/20/08) and told me the same stuffs about a so-called “meeting/appointment” at 15/F Ocatgon Center, San Miguel Ave. Ortigas. she talked so fast that I was not able to understand even the name of their company. and so i texted her and asked for the infos again and requirements. she replied, “NS ENTERPRISES, just bring a valid id.” that’s it. WTF?? a recruitment process without even requiring pertinent papers. that’s when i decided to surf the net and research about their “company” profile. and this is where i landed. thank you so much. and thank God i “googled”. LOL
ish // Aug 22, 2008 at 10:58 am
oh btw.. i forgot. this is the number of “MS. ANA VICTORIA” in case you guys are interested about their so-called business proposal. 09152165575.
kath // Sep 9, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Hi! i was also a victim of their false recruitment strategy. After experiencing it again yesterday, i decided to post my experience and comment about it. Hope people would become more aware of this.
My post is at: http://pusangkalye.com/2008/09/09/beware-of-pharmanex-nuskin-recruitment-strategy/
baguio boy // Mar 20, 2009 at 6:57 pm
ei guys add lang po inaabot na nila ang baguio ngayon and bilib din talaga ako sa researchers nila…ginamit pa pangalan ng mga kabatch ko nung high school…but to cut it short add this name on your watch list…SHAM BALLESTEROS (09175119622) 26th floor Trafalgar Plaza Makati…
red // Apr 27, 2009 at 10:32 pm
thanks to your blog that my GF found out about it sooner before i went for that meeting! i’m supposed to with a guy named joel araojo! and his CP: number is 09178580502, jst to add info about those people!
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Elevic Pernis // Jul 18, 2009 at 7:16 am
Beware also of Create Abundance 2020. It’s a front of NU Skinism.
Their method is slightly better than those scammers you mentioned, but I cannot accept the fact that they display behavior characteristic of a cult.
bonita // Aug 9, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Ana Victoria go to hell!
SPO4 Bantay Scam // Aug 19, 2009 at 9:40 am
Hi Dine! Though this blog post is almost two years old, this is still valuable info especially to the unsuspecting who’d fall prey into these con schemes. Ang nakakabuwisit pa, ang Pilipino niloloko ang kapwa Pilipino. Saan pa kayo? As the saying goes, there’s a sucker born every minute! Once again thanks for informing the public.
I have had some of these NSE scammers placed under surveillance by my team.
BTW will be linking your post into my Multiply so the unsuspecting public may know.
amor // Aug 22, 2009 at 9:20 pm
a while ago i also receive a call from…i forget the name.. and i smell something fishy… same story… she will giving me job and set an appointment at 15th floor teleperformance blg ortigas at 3:30 pm in business attire…
then caller know my name and the school i graduated from… she was saying about health care biophotonic????
ang i feel its a scam… she dont even say to bring resume or whatever documents needed…
something fishy isnt it??? first where she get my number? ang how she now my info??
what the heck!
this is her number…. actually i dont know if she or he… it sound like gay…
this is the number..09178202425
diannedc // Sep 6, 2009 at 7:31 pm
hi amor, i got a call also from the same number. Her name is Ms. Ana Victoria..She said that she’s looking for someone for training and devt. good thing I checked Google before coming to that meeting. I thought also that something’s wrong because she did not ask me for my resume.
She said the same thing about healthcare biophotonic. tsk tsk..bad idea for them to fool us! the meeting was supposed to be tomorrow (monday) at 330pm also!
Angie // Sep 16, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Big Thanks to the Blogger who posted this Treachery – I smell them right away cause they are not giving away any info on the company the only info I got is the address and it bring me to this site. I am very grateful I don’t have to waste precious time in coming to their office.
Thanks alot !
anonbabe // Oct 3, 2009 at 3:16 pm
thanks miss dine for sharing this…i used to be a member of this mlm company…i signed up, paid the P12.6k and gave my 300 namelist..the upline will teach you “to deceive” people with the use of “the script”…they will call your namelist and show you how to “do it”…pero i dont want to use the “script” to deceive people para lang pumunta sa venue…before kasi when i was invited, the caller(my upline) told me that they are offering franchise seminars for free, so nagpunta ako and i got carried away by the “video” that they showed. kaso hindi ko kayang magsinungaling at magconceal ng info pag tinatanong na ako so i decided to do the alternative method to earn back my hard earned P12.6k…and resorted to direct selling. i invited my friends to try the products for free…i had customers, and eventually had downlines na din. what made me quit was the realization na hindi ako kikita ng malaki sa direct selling alone, the products were really good but they were really expensive, kikita ka kung magrerecruit ka kasi you will earn P2.5k for every recruit….kaya yung iba, kahit magsinungaling na lang basta makarecruit lang…i hate that…with all honesty, i still use their products, the company is legit, but the recruitment strategy is 100% deceiving…
anonbabe // Oct 3, 2009 at 3:24 pm
….just for clarification…”the company” is NuSkin…its legitimate and yes its publicly listed at the new york stock exchange…but the recruiters…..i’m not sure…peace…
Acr // Oct 14, 2009 at 11:25 pm
OOOOOOOOOOOO hindi na nakasagot si ROBERT Tracy, wooohooo where are you.? Kasi naman defend ng defend mali naman ang dinedepensahan. Yan tuloy lalong nahalata.. tsk tsk.. THE POINT IS ung maling strategy na ginagamit ng recruiters.
ako nag leave pa sa work just to attend that so called office interview. sus. Di nila naiisip na baka me importanteng gnagawa ung tao.
aileen1109 // Oct 30, 2009 at 2:13 pm
i received the same call today 10/30/09 from the number 09178202425 she introduced herself as ANA VICTORIA she was offering a part time job with good compensation, saying that they have an opening project and my school referred me to them cause i was an alumni there, surprisingly she knew where i graduated but it got suspicious when she asked what course i graduated from, she asked me if im presently working and where i provided the info and she said good we need someone with work experience as you do, so she provided me the time and place of the interview it was 1:30 pm sat 10/31/09 at 15th flr teleperformance bldg san miguel ave ortigas, her last words was im expecting that your very professional towards all your interviews so you will come here in business attire, on time and bring a pen paper with you and a valid ID, luckily when i got home i got into my senses and typed the address and i found several blogs having the same scenario, tomorrow is my scheduled meeting to be, thanx for the heads up guys my time and effort was not come to waste.. take care
moi // Feb 19, 2010 at 9:10 pm
thank goodness for google. i received a call too. just this morning. but it was short, compliment-free and clearly random call. i was being invited to attend a leadership training by someone who’s working for a company called NSI. never heard of it so i tried to google that but it just came up with 0 results. so i searched for the office address they gave me instead; 15th floor, octagon bldg., san miguel ave., ortigas center. and that’s where i chanced upon these fascinating blogs of awareness (even the blogs that doesn’t say its a scam). i sent a message to the person that invited me that i am canceling my appointment because i’d be really pissed if i’d go there in my business attire and then ask me pay them 12,000 PhP, gosh, the hassle.
hanna // Feb 26, 2010 at 11:44 am
yikes! i’m scheduled for a “business meeting” or whatever today at 5pm! good thing i poked around the net for details before going there!
darkness // Apr 9, 2010 at 4:41 pm
thanks, i have an appointment/job interview tomorrow at 1pm… “biophotonics international” daw name ng company., kaya pala nagduda na ako na para sa isang job interview ay hindi nagpapadala ng biodata / resume kaya nag research ako sa “google” pero wala akong makita hanggang may makita akong isang blog, tapos na direct ako dito. buti na lang nabasa ko to… papacancel ko na meeting bukas.. thanks for the information… ^^
Poyt // Apr 13, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Wow! Got a call just now from an Ellen Rapud inviting me to a meeting at 15th floor Teleperfomance Building at San Miguel Ave in Ortigas. Smells fishy!
kay` // Apr 23, 2010 at 10:09 am
got a call from NS International last wednesday, and dapat may “interview” ako mamaya. super doubt ako so i decided to search the net para sa company infos, at ang daming blog na ganito..
thanks talaga. buti na lang nagsearch muna ako. ^^
@Poyt, yan din yung address na binigay sakin.
dheykiss // May 15, 2010 at 11:11 am
omg! buti nlng nag google aq. . was sleeping already when someone called me @ 10:30 pm. for a brief interview.. and this sis the first time i recieved a phone call at 10:30 in the evening..and xmpre may phone ethics nmn aq eh then i answered it..
grabeh..so scammed b 2?? and now they reminded me pa n i had appointment with them..but confusingly i asked if i need to bring my resume? she said no need! crap? where the hell interview that u don’t need an resume? so firstly in the morning i goggled the place and the name of crap company! and then i saw this site.. guys thank u so much! i also post my hell experience so that this NS COMPANY ENTERPRISE CRAP DISSOLVED ALREADY..pls stop it.. nde kau nkkatuwa! the hell! they told me pa someone recommends me to them..and they can’t answer who he is! mmmmn.. that really confusing huh..no. no..
-dheyfab from alabang
dheykiss // May 15, 2010 at 11:19 am
guys beware…its a good thing that u really first know the company first..and u can feel it nmn if its true eh..meron b nmng interview na nde klangn ng resume? whoah?..dis is my first time n nkarecieve n ngnyan! and a call interview in the 10:30 in the evening.. haha! NS ENTERPRISE UN BINIGAY NILANG COMPANY! BEWARE OF THIS!!!!! i had appontment skinla dpat ngaun @ 1:30 pm..crappped..beware. beware. beware.. serached first guys tlga! before goin to an interview! it really helps.. and thank u guys s a blog na e2.
almost // Jun 1, 2010 at 4:30 pm
This is the number that texted me saying na we have a “meeting” at 6:30pm today (09178122887) and she said that she is from NS ENTERPRISES. She called me and said na she is a project manager and that I only have to bring a valid id (no resume ha). The position daw is for management and training. The location is 16th floor octagon tower, exchange road corner san miguel and look for DAISY GALVEZ daw.When we googled it ito lumabas so thanks a lot.
Moontix // Jun 22, 2010 at 8:12 pm
I was looking for business books in National bookstore Festival mall today when this guy introduced himself. He seems to be looking for books also. He told me he is working as business management for US company. After a few chats he gave his name and number.. he seems trustworthy so I also gave my name and number. A few more chitchats then I have to go. He said he is going to call later this week if his company have part time projects available for me. It sounded good.
I received his call sooner than expected. He called this afternoon.
The rest of the story is just like a template. Same company (this time its in Alabang), same description (he said I come highly recommended…. how about that?).
Thanks a lot Sexy Mom.
T // Jun 25, 2010 at 2:54 am
Hi, I just came across your blog entry and so many other similar ones from other people. I got a call too. The caller is a certain Ms Flores. This time the company is called “something Global something”. I really couldn’t make out the words because it was just over the phone and it was kind of choppy. She said they are a US-based company looking for trainees for an “entrepreneurship program.” She sounded really professional and legitimate, and I was kind of interested already. She asked me to go to their office this Friday (which is tomorrow) at 3pm for an in-depth orientation because it’s hard to discuss the program over the phone. She gave me this address: 15th Floor Teleperformance Tower, San Miguel Avenue, Pasig City. Then she goes on saying that this is non-committal but she expects me to be professional and that I won’t make last-minute cancellations.
I Googled right away after that. I typed the address in the search engine but I didn’t get a single thing about this “something Global” US-based company. I mean, I would expect them to at least have a website, given that they are a US-based company. Heck, even small local companies have their own websites! At my 1st try, I wasn’t able to get much and I was attending to other things so I put it off. Then today I decided to Google them again, and I came across all these blog entries. It’s really scary how all these stories match with my experience. I panicked and told a friend whom I was chatting with at the time. Surprisingly, he was called too before by the same person (this Ms Flores)! But in his case, the company’s name was Pharmanex. And it’s also at the 15th floor of the Octagon building in San Miguel Ave (same as the Teleperformance Tower; ha says there’s a huge Teleperformance sign on the buiding). He actually went, and he said that they’ll entice you to join their networking thing. He said their enticing is actually good. But he didn’t join. He advised me not to go.
My meeting with them is tomorrow. It’s a really really good thing that I decided to research again and I was able to talk with my friend.
Thanks for sharing!
gosh // Jul 24, 2010 at 4:56 pm
thank’s for all the bloggers. grabeh, i also got that same phone call a minute ago. . same address, same words. . gosh, i almost give in. buti na lang i search the net agad,after the call . . thank’s talaga.
ambot // Aug 20, 2010 at 11:34 am
nakakatawa, lahat may opinyon. Anyway, nakaattend na din ako ng orientation nila last week lang, SO FRESH. it really made sense and i searched for facts kasi sabi nila they were included in the NYSE (New York Stock Exchange), and they were nga. Latest is the Forbes.com which revealed they are top5 sa mga 100 most stable companies. Stuffs like that. And when they called me, they told me its a business nga not a JOB. hehe good for me kasi basta business game ako.
But in the end, i was just not interested. But it did not hurt on my part coz they did not force me to join or what. Besides, the one who invited me was really professional and i can see her sincerity na they are looking for serious people. It’s for everybody nga daw.
Curiosity doesnt always kill the cat. Siguro sa inyo yung nag invite sa inyo hindi maganda yung way. Kanya kanyang experience nga. As for me, i had fun naman. but now is not the right time for me.
sicnarf // Aug 23, 2010 at 5:48 pm
hmm.. may tumawag saken ngayon lang.. punta nga daw ako bukas sa 15flr octagon tower.. so search ako sa net para alam ko na way papunta dun bukas.. na supresa ako na puro negative ang comment sa nse inc na nasa 15th flr ng octagon tower.. so pupunta ba ako oh hinde?
answer:nde
y?: magagastusan ako pamasahe tas pagod pa pumunta dun. makikipagsiksikan pa sa MRT. hehe kaya wag na lang.. focus na lang ako sa trabaho ko at kung ano ang meron ako ngayon. salamat.
dude // Sep 12, 2010 at 12:36 am
people, hi! i know nu skin maybe not that really honest in their tactics, but i think its a good company. Why? because my sister earns 2M to 3M per month. that’s per MONTH, and she only worked there for only lyk 3 years. Yup, its networking, but my sister said its the greatest networking company ever built. No scams and legally registered. They even beat Apple and microsoft to win the stevie’s award if I heard it correctly. Go to forbes website, theyre also on top. So amazing.
anna // Oct 17, 2010 at 5:37 pm
EVERYONE HAS THEIR OPINION ABOUT IT.
NU Skin is a legitimate MLM. just base it on facts and dont listen to bloggers who didnt take the chance to see the oppurtunity for themselves. see it for yourself.
zashi // Dec 4, 2010 at 12:24 pm
hi! thank you so much for posting this.
got a call last night. im wondering where did they got my mobile no and name. they wanted to meet me on mon 3pm at their office. after giving me their address i asked them how and where did they got my info,, are they a call center co??? etc. but refused to give me more details.
i decided to search here. so glad to come across your post! thank you so much! really appreciate this. =) godbless
7ghost // Jun 7, 2011 at 8:41 am
I got the same phone call yesterday I think the company lives to its reputation but I what I really don’t like is their tactics is this the same strategy to hire agents/sellers or whatever you call it abroad??? or its just plain filipino tactics na “panggugulang”… I know some people here are earning from this company but sorry my field is different I have my own way of doing things
luis // Jun 22, 2011 at 1:02 am
It’s good to hear all the opinions of alot of people here. Nu Skin is one of the best (if no the best) companies compared to other networking/MLM businesses I have attended. They are not hiring, they are just inviting people who would like to have a very good business. Of course it’s not for everybody. Kaya nga madaming negative inputs dito because they haven’t seen the whole picture. Just a suggestion to everyone who declined the invitation, why not see the business presentation first and then pour all your hearts out (whether positive/negative) in every blog possible. In that way the saying of “TO SEE IS TO BELIEVE” would make sense. Hindi yung to read a blog comment is to believe. Well, this is just my opinion fellas (and my 1st and last post). It’s your choice to accept the invitation or not. It is also your choice to entertain negative thoughts to your mind or a positive mindset. By the way, the way you think would affect your health. Peace out! God bless :>
anonymous // Nov 30, 2011 at 12:04 am
Thank you for that info.
I felt that there might be something wrong from NSE’s invitation, and yeah, Google brought me here.
Jayu // Dec 27, 2011 at 11:29 pm
A similar scheme posted in NBI, found guilty in Australia. Same business model, same bullcrap.
http://www.nbi.gov.ph/news/tvi_express.html
Natsu Dragneel // Jan 14, 2012 at 12:29 am
@Jayu Not trying to make enemies here or anything but i would have to disagree with what Jayu posted. Reading the site that Jayu posted that company was only making money through recruiting. The money from network marketing must also come from sales thus the word “MARKETING”
In my own opinion I think Luis might be righ. I attended the presentation of NuSkin. It is a good business model kinda like franchise but with people and smaller capital of 12,600Php for products that you will use yourself. I decided not to join because I already have my own business to take care of.(I still buy their body scrub though best thing i ever bought hehehehe ^_^)
Also for those distributors who trick people by saying you have a job opportunity when your just trying to invite them in you MLM you should really change your ways before you destroy your reputation as well as the company’s.
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