Ateneo or UP?

Posted on January 12, 2008
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Now that both ACET and UPCAT results are out, I am reposting this, for the sake of you, dear students, who passd both ACET and UPCAT. Now you are lucky, as you do not need to pay a non-refundable reservation fee (P4th during BA’s time) at the Ateneo if UP is your school of choice. In the past the UPCAT results were released a few days after Ateneo’s deadline for making reservations.

As I mentioned, it’s Vince’s turn now—Ateneo or UP? Had he not passed in BSBA, a quota course and incidentally his first choice, he would have outright chosen Ateneo where he also passed the course of his choice, Management Engineering, an honors course. We are praying for Vince’s decision, difficult as it may be.

Today, BA is in his second year at the UP, with a course in Applied Physics. He has not at all regretted having chosen UP over Ateneo, his alma mater for 12 years (pre-school to high school).

Now it is Vince’s turn to evaluate his options—Ateneo or UP?

Here is the original post dated 9 March 2007.

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This time last year, son BA, was in a dilemma over which school to choose and what course to take in college. He passed both ACET (Ateneo College Entrance Test) and UPCAT (University of the Philippines College Admisson Test), for an honors course in Management Engineering and B.S. Statistics, respectively.

Being an Atenean from pre-school to high school, he just felt it in his heart that he wanted to go to college at the Ateneo. On the other hand, he thought he was being pressured by us his parents to go to the UP. What we told him struck through his very bones—12 years at the Ateneo has given him too sheltered a life—the Jesuits guiding him all the way through his young and teenage years. He was not exposed to the realities of the world outside the Jesuit community. We felt that a UP education, aside from being still considered outstanding, would prepare him for the harsh realities of life. It was confusion even more for him.

It took a lot of brainstorming, soliciting advice from professionals and friends, surfing he internet for forum discussions and weighing the pros and cons, before BA made his decision. After all was said and done, we gave our blessings—to follow his heart. As we expected, he chose to continue his education with the Jesuits at the Ateneo. He requested for a shift in course from ME to Physics. He paid the reservation fee, and happily announced his decision to his friends.

It was a great surprise to us, when on the last day of registration at the UP, he asked me and his dad if he could go to UP instead of Ateneo, a miracle, we thought. And so, he registered at UP. Find his initial shock and experience here and here.

It was not easy to leave his home of 12 years. He had his emotional walk at the hallway of Ateneo high school, to compose his thoughts and say good-bye to his alma mater.

He has not regretted his decision—his one year at the UP has given him a more mature outlook in life. It has made him more aware of the sufferings of other people. Still an Atenean by heart, having instilled the values, morals and discipline every Atenean must have, BA continues to apply MAGIS in every action and deed Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam (all for God’s Greater Glory).

Next year, it will be Vince’s turn to decide, Ateneo or UP?

Comments

73 Responses to “Ateneo or UP?”

jhay on March 9th, 2007 10:26 am

Had that same predicament when I was about to enter college. UP or the Ateneo, I went to Ateneo because my parents had enough of my higschool radicalism that four years under the guidance of the Jesuits would balance things off.

Two years after, they changed their minds again and now even against my will, I’m in La Salle Dasmarinas.

sighs Marx was right, who ever controls the economy (the purse) has the control of pretty much everything else.
Kyels on March 9th, 2007 11:00 am

Tita Dine, when I read about BA’s dilemma, it struck my mind that I was once in his shoes.

I wanted to do Journalism badly and at the same time IT and Management studies; the worst was both offers came to me at the same time. I chose Journalism at first and my parents especially Daddy was a little disappointed but told me to follow my heart as well. I felt tempted to take up the Journalism offer but at the end, last minute decision, I decided to do what I am doing now—- IT and Management.

(:
princess on March 9th, 2007 11:31 am

Congratulations to you, Dine, and husband for having a son who knows how to get the best of both worlds! Hooray!
Me? I’m still wondering – did I miss anything for going public through and through? Guess I will never find out
Belle on March 9th, 2007 2:09 pm

You raised him well, Dine. Hope he has a great time in UP.
ba on March 9th, 2007 4:38 pm

Ano gagawin mo kapag biglang naging aktibista ako? Bwahahahaha.
gracita on March 9th, 2007 5:04 pm

i just saw ba’s comment and i can’t help but laugh! indeed, what will you do if he becomes an activist?! but i guess that’s another thing that he should decide for himself.

i applaud you and your husband for wanting Ba to study in UP and experience the harsh realities of life. my mom has always tried to shelter us from this, so i had a hard time trying to cope up when it was time for me to be on my own.
Shari on March 9th, 2007 6:38 pm

What I applaud most is the fact that you let BA choose what university to attend. Not many people have parents like you and your husband (and parents who want their son to go to UP over ADMU, at that hehe). I’m quite lucky that I was never made to face that kind of dilemma. UPCAT’s the only exam I took. o_O

Though I wanted to go to either PUP or FEU. And my mom, while considerate, was against it. “G*g* ka na nga, lalo ka pang magiging g*g* dun!” Pardon the words. PLM was also one of the choices, kaso hindi ako nakahabol sa submission ng application.

Anywhere but UP, that’s what I’ve always told myself. Pero look at where I am now. sighs, lol.
Sexy Mom on March 9th, 2007 7:08 pm

jhay – that’s interesting, ateneo then la salle, hmmm so who do you cheer for at the UAAP?
Sexy Mom on March 9th, 2007 7:11 pm

kyels – and i guess you made the right decision, you’re now enjoying your IT related work in KL, at the same time enjoying writing “The Laments…”, which is indeed journalism!
Sexy Mom on March 9th, 2007 7:12 pm

thanks, Princess, at least you were not in a dilemma. don’t wonder anymore, just enjoy where you are now.
Sexy Mom on March 9th, 2007 7:14 pm

thanks, Belle, BA is having his wonderful free time in UP (sometimes “free” literally, because there are no teachers (LOL).
Sexy Mom on March 9th, 2007 7:18 pm

hi, Gracita. yes, BA can be funny! if BA decides to become an activist…i don’t know. i’ll have to ask Shari.
Sexy Mom on March 9th, 2007 8:16 pm

so, Shari, what will i tell BA in case he decides to be an activist?

and you’re lucky! other’s would find it risky not to apply in other schools, and that’s UP for you.
Sexy Mom on March 9th, 2007 8:17 pm

BA - i know you can be funny, but are you serious?
Alex on March 9th, 2007 8:23 pm

Harhar, the classic dilemma of an Atenean who passed the UPCAT. Very rare.

I was supposed to take up MIS at the Ateneo because I had good grades in computer. To the shock of my teachers I took up English in Diliman. No regrets.

And it’s funny how I worked as a programmer for an IT company with a degree in English.

But it’s the diskarte that I have to thank UP for. Wrote an article about it here.
vince on March 9th, 2007 8:31 pm

Ateneo!!
Sexy Mom on March 9th, 2007 8:38 pm

yo, Vince! that was BA’s conviction before. and yes, whatever your decision will be, we will support you—but please don’t just look at 1 side, weigh your options.

love,
your sexy mom
Sexy Mom on March 9th, 2007 8:41 pm

hi, Alex, i noted that you had the schools with my eldest son, JAngelo, claret GS, ateneo HS, then UP. BA’s ADMU teachers were also surprised. and i’m glad, you have no regrets, too. i read the article, JAngelo and you have many things in common… thanks!
noemi on March 9th, 2007 9:16 pm

Good choice. I forced my second daughter to go to UP for financial reasons. We were broke that year. Today, she is happy she chose UP.
rHo on March 9th, 2007 9:56 pm

i’ve been in that situation too… pero na-convince pa rin ako na pumasok sa UP! no regrets at all.. kung ano man ako ngayon, i owe it all sa UP kong mahal!! cheeerrrss!!
benj on March 9th, 2007 10:28 pm

Lololol. Alex is evil! haha. But then again, I can’t fault him for pointing out the obvious and stating a proven fact.

Based on Vince’s blog posts, he’s absolutely in for a HUGE culture shock in UP. He might be better off with Ateneo.

I’ve been in the UP system for the past 10 years ( high school, under grad and post grad). I’m brimming with UP pride, but I’m sure the “environment” is a lot more sheltered in Ateneo (understatement of the century!).
vic on March 10th, 2007 12:37 am

Even an institution to go is a decision to make and it will eventually affect the prospect of a better job as most employers look at where a particular applicant obtained his/her undergraduate trainings.

Under our system, where secondary education is publicly funded, there are only two major choices, the Catholic Schools or the Public schools and the curriculums are the same, except for the religion.

There are few privates, but only for the super rich, and are not publicly funded.

Universities and colleges are not rated (same as hospitals) and are only known to which courses they specialized. And acceptance to professions are regulated by the profession themselves after fulfilling the requirements.

The only real difference an education can make a difference is the post graduate degree or specialty taken from prestigious U.S. Ivy leaguers or some specialty or reseach in some well-known institutions.

Somehow, someday it will be nice if education will become accessible to most, and be of the same quality, be you are poor or rich, or our unfortunate country folks will be forever relegated to second class education…
chase on March 10th, 2007 2:39 am

Well I havent been on that kind of situation. Since I knew where to study and it muist be somewhere around Europe or in the US being that my 2 older sisters studied in the US as well and now living there.

But my main motive is just to be away since whatever school I will attend in the Phils. It is still the same people, culture and I really find it boring.
jhay on March 10th, 2007 7:13 am

For one, being an activist is not bad. I’d rather be called one, and be proud of it, than being called as passive.

Second, you can also be an activist even if you’re not in or from UP. Look at me, I was never a student of UP.

Third, who do I cheer for in the UAAP?

The Ateneo of course, La Salle Dasma’s ballers are good, too bad they never have a chance to compete in the UAAP. Still, Go Ateneo! hahaha
lady cess on March 10th, 2007 7:15 am

saw ba’s comment cant help but wonder – bakit pag sinabing up, nagiging aktibista, or at least may “aura” ng aktibista?
dimaks on March 10th, 2007 8:00 am

Am sure maraming bagong matututunan si BA sa UP hehe. One thing in my mind is eating fishball and kikiam near Balay-Kalinaw
maki on March 10th, 2007 9:33 am

I don’t think that you’re automatically an activist once you’re in UP already. You have to earn it. As jay said, we can be activists even if not in UP- or well, whatever school you are in hehe. I don’t want to be labelled as ‘passive’ either. We at ADMU also do our social work. We have our SOA orgs. I’m part of a project of Gawad Kalinga where we help the GK communities build their livelihood. There are so many kinds of activists out there right? Political, Social etc.

I’m neutral in terms of what school one should pick. The important thing is that the person will have no regrets in whatever he or she does in her course.
Toe on March 10th, 2007 1:55 pm

Naku, had the same problem after high school. I also passed the exams to both schools. My Dad and 4 siblings were from UP and for them, UP was the only school. I defied all of them… at the last minute, I took up music in UST.
benj on March 10th, 2007 2:26 pm

I’m from UP and I HATE ACTIVISTS. It’s all a case of the noisy minority drowning out the general sentiment.

Most people in UP aren’t activists, heck, I know a lot of people who think they’re a nuisance. UP is the bastion of pretentious activism so it’s a tough break.
Sexy Mom on March 10th, 2007 2:50 pm

Thanks, Noemi, I am glad your daughter L is happy in UP.
ann on March 10th, 2007 2:50 pm

Anak ng friend ko nasa UP ngayon, lately para daw iba na magsalita. biglang naging maka masa.
Sexy Mom on March 10th, 2007 2:53 pm

dimaks – yes, during BA’s initial days in UP, “to eat fish balls and kikiam in UP” were in his priority list
Sexy Mom on March 10th, 2007 2:59 pm

rHo, i know how you felt at that time, it was really a dilemma. it’s good you appreciate what UP has made of you.
Sexy Mom on March 10th, 2007 3:08 pm

hi, benj! i guess the way you beam with intense UP pride is equally the same way as Vince beams with intense ADMU pride. he is entirely different from BA. and yes, UP will be huge culture shock for him, that is why, we will not get in the way when he makes the decision next year.
Sexy Mom on March 10th, 2007 3:13 pm

thanks, Vic, i have noted the difference in the education system in the US. that’s very enlightening, esp for those who have the privilege to study there.

i agree—it would be nice if education is made available to everyone, regardless of stature in life. but it’s a pity, education has suddenly taken a back seat, it’s not the govt’s priority anymore. in fact, budget has been slashed, if i am not mistaken.
Sexy Mom on March 10th, 2007 3:18 pm

thanks, Lady Cess, i would not have been able to give a good explanation to that. am glad jhay’s and maki’s comments came at the right time. thanks to you both jhay and maki.

jhay, same here—we cheer intensely for ADMU in the UAAP, and BA stays with us on the side of ADMU

maki, BA also has done some work with GK while at ADMU
Sexy Mom on March 10th, 2007 3:19 pm

toe – that’s interesting, music in UST! i know you and honey do beautiful music together, but do you do music at work? i wonder.
Sexy Mom on March 10th, 2007 3:22 pm

hi, chase – me and my kids enjoy reading your blogs together. it’s good you didn’t have a dilemma in choosing your school, as you already have one in mind at that time.
Sexy Mom on March 10th, 2007 3:31 pm

Ann – i am not surprised! but it’s ok, your friend should not worry.
Joe Blog on March 10th, 2007 7:07 pm

I was one of those rare souls who failed both exams so i ended up under the tutelage of the 2nd tier Benedictine monks in Mendiola and moved on to a career here in the island of Manhattan. Yes, it would be nice to be accepted into this great schools. But at the end of the day, what really matters is for the student to leverage the time spent in any school to gain the vital skills necessary to compete in the job market.
Shari on March 10th, 2007 8:37 pm

Sexy Mom: Haha, tell BA to follow his heart. I agree with Jhay, and in a way, with Benj. Activists in UP are just but a mere minority. ^_

I honestly define an activist as someone who deviates from the norms. Someone who does things that are unconventional. Someone who does more of what is expected from him/her.
eye on March 10th, 2007 8:55 pm

this is an inspirng story on how parents should guide their children in decision making rather than pressuring them.

you’re right, his basic education + family support is a good foundation. UP will make him fully independent and realistic, which he will appreciate later on when he’s already working with the industry. medyo masuwerte siya at tapos na ang panahon ng University of Pila hehehe!

i myself didn’t become an acitivist, nasa bata talaga yan, hehe!
kathy on March 10th, 2007 9:51 pm

UP is the best! I’m biased, of course. I must have missed it somewhere…but did your son also end up taking Physics in UP?
rex on March 11th, 2007 12:36 am

haha! i can still remember that this was the same time when i ‘met’ BA on the bloggosphere.

syempre, being in UP, i convinced him that UP was the better choice, hehe.

having studied in Catholic schools for 12 years (St Scho & Don Bosco), it was indeed a wise decision for me to choose UP, because in doing so ‘forced’ me to be more independent, more open and in effect, more mature..
BA on March 11th, 2007 12:49 am

Eye: University ng Pila nga talaga. Yun, para sa akin, yung sunod na pinaka-shocking, after nung rally sa Freshman Orientation Program namin, at after din ng mga masusungit na tao. Hahaha

Kathy: Ako yun kukuha ng Applied Physics. Just gonna finish the sem, and pass my subjects, and hopefully, by next sem, makapagshift na ako.
benj on March 11th, 2007 2:16 am

Oh noes, Sexy Mom was probably an activist too. sorry about that. My hatred for the commies is unparalleled.
Sexy Mom on March 11th, 2007 7:00 am

whoa, benj! YES, i am an activist! activist in the sense that i fiercely love my family, and i will do everything within the moral right to protect them; i fiercely stand up to what i believe in, like I believe in the power of the Almighty God, and I can announce it to the whole world; i fiercely respect other people’s opinions, that is why even if my opinion differs from theirs, I can still live in harmony, and that includes all you dear readers, who have become close to my heart, whose blogs i also fiercely follow! oh, YES, i am an activist.

and yes – i agree with shari’s definition of an activist.
Sexy Mom on March 11th, 2007 7:02 am

BA - UP maybe the university of pila (long queus), but don’t you think the pila gives you a lesson in patience? more “pilas” please, for you.
Sexy Mom on March 11th, 2007 7:04 am

Rex – yes, BA still remembers, and says thanks!
Sexy Mom on March 11th, 2007 7:06 am

thanks eye, for the nice words. there is still pila for making payments or whatever, altho registration is now online—big impovement, don’t you think so:
Sexy Mom on March 11th, 2007 11:40 am

oh, Joe Blog – it doesn’t matter now. a career in Manhattan is certainly an interesting one!
benj on March 11th, 2007 1:56 pm

If that’s activism, then that’s not the thing that I hate.

I hate ‘pretentious activism’ – with matching red flags. hehe
Yoru on March 11th, 2007 2:39 pm

Hi Sexy Mom, thanks for dropping by my blog. Almost seven years ago, I also made a critical decision similar to your son’s (actually, almost the same). I chose Ateneo, although UP was really my dream school eversince I was a kid. My determining factor was rather simple. I spent years prior to college in public schools. Then, my mom thought I might become too radical if I went to UP. Without pressure, I was advised to go to Ateneo instead.

I must say I’m really glad that the Jesuit education brought a lot of change in me. And I have to thank parents like mine (and you) who are open-minded about their children’s choices.
vic on March 11th, 2007 3:18 pm

sexy mom,

I was meaning to comment on the system in Canada as compared to the U.S. where the Universities and Colleges are too expensive and also rated as to their excellence. Although in both countries, student loans are available, Canadian Universities are Government subsidized to almost 60% for its citizens and a low interest loans are available to students payable upon obtaining gainful employment after graduation and interest won’t accrue until then.

Subsidies are not applicable for foreign students, and would not also apply to locals wanting to study outside the country.

But despites all these oppurtunities, most youth here, except the Asians (chinese in particular) would rather work after high school, the reason why this country is forever wanting foreign trained professionals.
Sexy Mom on March 11th, 2007 8:16 pm

oh, sorry, Vic, now i’m confused. i looked at your site (i always do) and looked again, at first i thought you were in canada, then again it was US, but is it canada?

oh, anyway, thanks—that was enlightening. i have also heard fro friends that generally, asians really pursue their studies.
Sexy Mom on March 11th, 2007 9:02 pm

thanks, Yoru – that must have been a good decision, it’s a good balance. whatever you did not learn in the public school, you learned at ADMU, same as whatever BA did not learn at the ADMU, he is slowly learning at UP. i’m glad also to hear kids acknowledging their parents for having guided them to the right path
Alex on March 12th, 2007 3:29 pm

Wow, ang daming comments! Now I’m thinking of writing a post why I chose UP over Ateneo and why I’d kill to get into UP.

Just some added comments…

Academically, I’ll say that if you came from the high school, you’d have a relatively easier time in UP. You’ve got solid foundations practically for everything (save for a few programs here and there).

Most of the “traitors” of the White and Blue who entered business ad, econ, and any course in the social sciences and humanities breezed their way through college.

And don’t worry about the culture shock. I wasn’t shocked at all. Most of the time, you’ll find yourself hanging out with fellow graduates of private schools anyway (or get invited by a frat or two, hehehe). I hung out with girls from Assumption and St. Paul back in my time (added perks?).

And UP’s slowly being dominated by middle to upper class kids anyway. Believe it or not, some colleges at UP have parking problems!
vince on March 13th, 2007 10:47 pm

wow, tons of comments. why don’t you make and article on ADMU vs DLSU this time and see how if you could still manage these comments. hahaha.
vince on March 13th, 2007 10:48 pm

*delete “how”
Angel on June 15th, 2007 2:59 am

Wow. That was a leap from him. I’m in the Ateneo now, and just because I have no experience in UP, I think his initial course, ME would have catapulted him to becoming brilliant man, even more than how he is now. But his decision to be in UP makes him very very admirable.
2008 UPCAT Results Now Available : The D Spot on January 12th, 2008 1:34 am

[...] For those who have options, here’s some thought: Ateneo or UP? [...]
Tiffany on January 13th, 2008 1:11 am

UP!

Note: A very very biased response from me.

Heeee.
The Construct by Alex Maximo - Commentaries on social media discourse » Blog Archive » UP or Ateneo revisited on January 13th, 2008 12:04 pm

[...] Sexy Mom reposted her take on the matter. Quite a service too, for those in great mental constipation caused by the tough choice between the two schools. Now on with my own (new?) opinions. [...]
haze on January 14th, 2008 4:38 am

Both are good school ! It’s up for the students to decide…and consider the transportation Tita kung saan malapit mas maganda at practical.
Lazarus on January 14th, 2008 2:15 pm

I was hoping and fantasizing I’d enroll in UPLB. That was 17 years ago when I was still a senior high school at UP Cebu. But the decision boiled down to financials. My parents couldn’t afford to send me outside Cebu. Wala din accountancy (my second choice) course sa UPV Cebu Campus and gusto ko rin nang bagong environment, so I enrolled in another school.

As for Vince, whether it’s ateneo or UP, I’m sure he’ll be successful.
annamanila on January 14th, 2008 7:10 pm

Congrats to Vince … its not easy to be admitted to Business Ad at UP .. very very quota I heard.

What a dilemma. a wonderful dilemma … UP or Ateneo. whichever he chooses, he gets an excellent education, I guess.

UP will make him more proletariat .. but that is a sweeping generalization.

Economics may be another factor. Even with the tuition fee increases in UP, it should still be cheaper by at least half, i guess.

Do i sound like i am rooting for UP?
eee on January 14th, 2008 8:41 pm

Congrats I’ve observed that almost everyone i know who passed UP also passed Ateneo but the ones who did pass Ateneo do not necessarily pass U.P. Which means…

btw, i married an atenean… go figure!
Raian B. Razal on January 14th, 2008 10:02 pm

miss sexy mom, i could not also decide on the matter. i am accepted as scholar in BS management engineering in ateneo and in Business Administration and Acountancy in diliman. Both are quota courses… i cant decide
jack bauer on January 15th, 2008 1:01 pm

Having passed both ateneo and up is something to be proud of already. I guess studying in either of those schools is fine as they are considered the best possible schools where you can possibly obtain your college degree in the Philippines. But given the choice, I will study in Ateneo. I myself when i took the UPCAT before admittedly failed.The only other school I took the college exams is at the Unibersidad de Santo Tomas which incidentally was my school of choice when I was a kid due to its “spanish” inspired campus and it being the alma mater of Filipino revolutionaries. I took up economics and eventually found myself in law school. Eventually i became a lawyer and is now one of the counsels of one of the presidentiables for 2010. I had many classmates who took their pre law at UP and Ateneo. I found the Ateneo grads as ‘elitist’ really and had fancy cars already. Those from UP meanwhile already were fraternity members already and were sharing their ‘wars’ while at the UP campus.
Karla on January 15th, 2008 7:40 pm

Thanks for the links, Tita Dine

After much deliberating with my parents, and sleepless hours, I finally made my decision: Creative Writing in UP. I passed Legal Management in Ateneo, which seems like a better choice for pre-law, but I have my heart set in writing. I think I would have a hard time pursuing a course I don’t have a penchant for. And besides, I studied in St. Paul’s all my life.. I need a new environment! So.. UP na ko! Hehe.

God bless!
palma tayona on January 24th, 2008 10:37 pm

it has been fourteen years since the time i finished from u.p. i think i produced more than five feet tall of papers, quizzes, and assignments and three tons of plates during the years i spent there as a student. countless sleepless hours were spent trying to read through books in our reading assignments only to find out that the day’s exam was a repeat of the same one word-for-friggin’-word a semester ago. hah!

i never regretted a single day that i was in diliman. it was a wide world of learning that opened my youthful eyes to the bigger arena called life. there i found out the highest of joys and the lowest of sadness. there i became equipped to do what i do now. all of these thanks to an old uncle who once taught in peyups.

when he found out i passed ateneo, he called me to his study. behind his thick and shiny mahogany table he asked me where i would register by next school year. i said ateneo. i find going to a private school much better since it will be a comfort zone i am already familiar with. (besides, i find the people there more “cute”) i proceeded to tell him all my thoughts about heading for a jesuit school for college, though i think what i was saying was more to convince myself rather than him.

he just nodded his head and his only reply before i left the room was, “go to u.p. start living life.”

i still smile when i remember that.
Ateneo or UP? One Last Take : The D Spot on March 27th, 2008 10:41 am

[...] I am posting this article, with the intention of sharing this with other students (and parents out there) who are in the same dilemma as Vince is in choosing his college: Ateneo or UP? ANother article, with the same topic was posted early this year here. [...]
dislyf on April 20th, 2008 5:56 pm

i dont think der must b a comparoson betwen UP nd ATENEO. ADMu s a priv8 nd well-equipd nst2tion (dun talo ang UP). while UP, as far as i know, they r espeializd n ol corses and dey r also excellent in philo. (ped u nga murahin angprof u s tym ng pilo as long as mron kng ktwiran at dun, naillabs nla ang nsa loob nla). UP s2dnts r also open minded—dey r radical so pipol thouht dat dey r an activist. U can wear pambhay n d univ , and lastly but not d least, dey ofer low tuition fee dat u can even pay it wid ur allownce.

in ADMU, dey car 2 der s2dents. dey also give a units f theology(as far as i know, it is compulsary). D univ s well secured nd neat nd d rums r fuly airconditioned.